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Spring Meeting Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Wenatchee Valley College Room: 5015, Van Tassel Hall |
Ruth Frickle (Scty) Highline CC
Phil Venditti Clover
Park
Jennifer Wu North
Seattle
Jim Howe LWTC
Rob Vogel Spokane
Mike Dodge Olympic
Diana Casey Pierce,
Ft. S.
Katy Olsen Pierce,
Puyallup
Steve Byman Lower
Columbia
Randy Nelson South
Seattle
Karrie Zylstra-Mytow Bates
Brad Smith Skagit
Max Heinzmann Big
Bend
Amy Kinsel Shoreline
Diane Pelletier Green
River
State Board: Noreen Light, Bill Moore
Call to Order,
Introductions, Welcomes
Approval of Feb 5 & 6, 2009 minutes
TreasurerÕs report: Randy Nelson
Dues raised, everyone has
paid (except Edmonds) Yakima cannot pay, Wenatchee unknown. Diane is confident that despite econ
issues, colleges will maintain membership. Randy concurred
Vice-presidentÕs
report: George OÕNeal
George was not in attendance,
but he has expressed interest in stepping down. Diane delineated tasks of VP: membership/recruitment, and
maintaining membership contact info are the primary responsibilities of the
position. After a brief side
discussion of how current membership list is at present, Mike Dodge agreed to step in, if Geo is truly
stepping down. This was followed
by a discussion of the membership list available on SBCTC website requiring an
update.
PresidentÕs report: Diane Pelletier
Discussion of reception at
the conference: estimated attendance 76.
For next year, Diane suggested a powerpoint continuously playing
describing FACTC. Jennifer notes that it takes time to put it together, Karrie
volunteered to take on project.
ItÕs necessary to change
location for fall meeting 2009. Suggested: Cascadia, Skagit, Pierce. Discussion
continued, Brad (Skagit) agreed to check/arrange to set meeting at Skagit on
Oct 22/23, 2009.
Other meetings for
2009-10:
Winter: February 11/12, Olympia at State Board tentative
Spring: April 30, Friday at Clark,
after TL Conf.
Standing Reports:
FACTC Publications: Mark Doerr
FOCUS:
Mark requested that
members prod colleagues or selves for articles, only 2 so far. Members then brainstormed about
articles, including people from conference doing something while itÕs fresh in
mind. Ruth confirmed doing Ōgrade
forgivenessÕ policies, Phil V will work with Mark to solicit articles from
conferees. This issue will also
include data from SB on how many students have to take developmental courses.
FACTC website & Blog: Jennifer Wu and Randy Nelson
Web updates include photos
of reps. Page updated after
meetings and when dues are paid.
Currently , $225 left in website budget for updates etc. We pay $110.25 for web hosting
(annual). Jennifer emphasized need
for maintaining accurate and current member data.
Blog- Mark can post
directly to the blog, Phil is also an associate member and can post directly,
anyone can post responses.
FACTC Representation at IC
meetings
Coordinator: George Neal
Unclear whether George will continue coordination after stepping down as
VP.
Winter meeting
Report: Randy Nelson
Did not attend, no report.
Spring meeting May 21,
SBCTC: George Neal, Phil Venditti
Phil will attend with his
VP and go to meeting, he will ask to be on agenda (advised to contact Jackie @
SB) to introduce himself as new President and report on FACTC activities. Bill/Noreen will follow upÓwith Jackie.
State Board Updates: Noreen Light, Bill Moore
Bill-will flup
electronically with info on the following:
Math placement test development:
Test being piloted, so cut
score can be set this Summer. They will use grade data also, and decision is
not cast in stone. Developmental tweaking will occur over next 2 years or so.
The test will act as an early warning system for HS studentsÕ math preparedness
for college. The CC and university systems have agreed to use cut score.
To be discussed at IC:
Set of math courses for
list must be common course numbered.
So far just 107, possibly 146 (but discussion continues.) Some schools ok with pre-calc, others
not. College readiness scores not intended for pre-calc preparedness measure,
plus pre-calc is highly variable around the system and that is the reason for
not including it.
UW office of educational
assessment & math faculty have been developing test, does not deliver
placement info. So far the test is
called College Readiness Math Test (CC) or MPTG (4yr)
Pilot schools for the test
are: Spokane Falls, Whatcom, some high schools. Pilot will be coordinated by UW. As there is no funding to implement test, students may have
to pay.
Math in Direct Transfer
Agreement —
How to deal with
intermediate algebra needs, UW definition is narrow. JAOG is involved and has task force w/college math faculty
reps. Students were being rejected
by UW (Central 1098), but now being held harmless. Language in DTA says proficiency in intermediate algebra. Recommendation to JAOG- language about
intermediate algebra to be removed and require math but not logic, unless logic
can be cross referenced. Econ,
Comp Sci can work on some campuses but that option may be preempted if
recommendation is adopted.
Grant for transition math
project is running out. Looking
for other funding sources
Amy asked about placement
for writing. HEC board is looking
at standards for readiness.
Placement score cutoffs vary widely across the system so even if 20% of
students place below college level using current cutoffs, in actuality it may
be more than that.
Reading scores may not be
used as widely across the system.
Bill will send chart of
cut scores.
Student Achievement Initiative
Money for achievement
points, which might put more emphasis on developmental ed activity on campuses.
Discussion: Members note that
colleges may perceive SAI as dismissing current/past activity in this area and
that students (not necessarily colleges) should be incented for achievement.
Review: SAI provides money
from state board, ($3.5 mil via legislature) with no restrictions on how spent.
Accred change:
Timeline is now 7 years, a
more continuous process with report submission every two years. Standards now are more like ŌthemesÕ
with greater breadth. Ongoing
Assessment is heavily
emphasized, 2011 is start (although with a choice if youÕre due that year,
those scheduled for 2010 use old structure). NWCCU website has full ppt and document explaining proposed
standards/process.
WASQUAL tabled.
Rehosting is moving forward.
Financial emergency- Board did not take a vote at
most recent meeting, will be taken next time.
Bill and Noreen brought concerns from State Board
staff that emails from a couple of college faculty were sent to all SB staff
and Board members. The emails
concerned faculty salary/pay issues in current budget crisis. Irritated some people at SBCTC.
Discussion:
How is communication between board/unions facilitated? Important role of FACTC members to
communicate the role of State Board.
General discussion that email is part of the public discussion and that
this is the way campus discussions are going on as well.